EdP, maybe you’re the only one experiencing a problem with the new Weather Watcher build. I guess we won’t know until someone else posts in this thread. Too many lurkers out there… we need more posters 
I’m not alone, I’m sure I’m having the same problem as skodnaa and we both had it before 14d. With skodnaa the big issue was with the Taskbar since it occupied so much of his screen. If I locate my Tooptip low enough it appears behind my Taskbar also. But my Taskbar is at the bottom and not high enough to cover my WW Tooltip but my IE 7 Window is low enough to cover it.
I think we’re seeing the tip of the iceberg. I’ll keep IE 7 on the nb if you want to work on this otherwise I’ll restore back to IE6.
My point exactly… I was having the same problem as both of you until after I installed 14d. I’m just curious to hear skodnaa’s feedback at this point.
Well I thought you had not followed the steps I listed to the letter and had added in a reboot because today after I booted the nb I could not get the problem to occur.
But I kept trying and found another situation where the problem occurs. 
With a blank desktop and taskbar, ie nothing open, nothing minimized: :icon_smile:
[list]I launch IE from the icon on my Quick Launch bar. The IE 7 window occupies most of the screen but not all of it.
I keep the mouse pointer on the Taskbar and never let it leave the Taskbar.
I slide the mouse pointer over to the WW icon.
The WW Tooltip opens behind the IE 7 window. I can see a sliver of it between the IE window and the Taskbar.[/list]Now that I am writing this, and the mouse has left the Taskbar, the Tooltip opens properly.
And it’s repeatable. :thumbright:
Hmm… I cannot recreate this one either. I tried those steps with the main Weather Watcher window open and minimized to the tray. The skinned tooltip is ontop in either case :scratch:
I’m using Windows XP Media Center and IE 7 (version 20061017.133151).
Hmm… I cannot recreate this one either. I tried those steps with the main Weather Watcher window open and minimized to the tray. The skinned tooltip is ontop in either case :scratch:
I’m using Windows XP Media Center and IE 7 (version 20061017.133151).
My main WW is neither open nor minimized. Nothing is, I’ve updated the senario posting to clarify that. :icon_smile:
My OS is Windows XP Home SP2, my IE 7 is version 7.0.5730.11.
If Weather Watcher is running but not visible on the desktop, then it is minimized to the system tray… or closed if that makes you feel better. If you are doing something else, then I need some more explanation. As I said, I tried following your steps while the main Weather Watcher window was visible on the desktop and when it was minimized to the system tray (not visible on the desktop). Did I lose you somewhere?
I don’t recall saying WW wasn’t running. When I boot my standard version of Windows the WW icon is in the System Tray. No WW window to close, no WW task on the Taskbar, no WW Options window open, no WW forecast window open, just an empty desktop and Taskbar.
EdP, try the following:
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If Weather Watcher is running, choose “Exit” from the Weather Watcher system tray menu to shut it down.
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Start Weather Watcher.
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If the main Weather Watcher window is visible, click the “X” in the corner to close that window.
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Open IE and slide your mouse across the taskbar to view the Weather Watcher skinned tooltip window.
Is IE covering the Weather Watcher skinned tooltip window at this point?
I tried to duplicate this using the steps provided on my machine and I cannot.
Windows XP Pro SP2, IE 7.0.5730.11
To Mike Singer:
Im so sorry, I was bussy in last days. Just now Im too exhausted (in my country is 2:09 AM) to write reactions. Tomorrow I’ll tell you more.
I dont know, but I think your time is about -6hrs moved from mine time.
No problem. Let us know when you have some free time :icon_smile:
jeromy, thanks for trying that out :icon_smile:
EdP, it looks like you’re the only one having this problem so far. It seems something else on your system might be causing the conflict. I wonder what?
Nope, not my problem. I’ve restored the hd to IE 6. I’ll let you resolve the problem with the next XP Home user that reports it.
As I noted previously my nb config is very basic. This was the complete Control Panel’s Add/Remove list when IE 7 was installed:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/3649/nbprogramstv6.png
Maybe that’s the problem. WW needs more than a plain Windows XP Home system when IE 7 is installed. Maybe it needs an addon that’s a part of IE 6 and not a part of the IE 7 system. Something that sets a byte or bit of RAM that WW is testing and expects to be set and it isn’t. Because the problem was not consistent in it’s manifestation it acts more like a memory related problem than a corrupt file type of problem. Or a coding problem that isn’t testing for all possible values or assumes a result by default, a pretty common error. A If not True does not always yield the same resuts as If False in the IT world.
Anyways maybe this will help skodnaa.
That’s a nice stab, but I don’t think you’re on the right track. Keep in mind that Windows handles the positioning of its program windows. It’s like I am telling Windows what to do, but it’s not responding properly on your computer.
I’m not sure this problem has anything to do with IE itself. Yes, the problem shows up for you when you upgrade IE, but who knows what Microsoft threw into that update.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
But suppose your “telling Windows what to do” isn’t saying it in the new “IE 7 format”? In the past you could tell it how high and how far right and maybe even what color you wanted a window and it would do exactly what you wanted. But with IE 7 Windows now needs to be told “when” or “top” or “front” also and without the extra attribute it defaults to whatever happens to be in the new attribute’s location and if you don’t control that location it’s contents will be random.
The problem was erratic. Experiencing the problem and making screen prints was easy, finding a repeatable senario was the hard part. And toward the end it was happening more than 50% of the time. I could be active in IE, move the mouse pointer to the WW icon and the Tooltip opened in back of IE. It fits the mold of a memory problem, something not initialized.
I had to upgrade my tinySpell app to work with IE 7 installed, something in the IE 7 install made it stop working. And tinySpell is further removed from IE dependencies than WW is. That’s why I agree this is probably not directly related to IE itself.
Even if the problem is a bug in Windows itself, MS’s focus is on the major vendor apps, it’s own apps and Vista working with IE 7. Small independent utilities and apps aren’t high on it’s list to be looked into, so guess where that leaves the fix to be coming from.
Oh, I don’t disagree with you on that one. The problem is that I cannot fix a problem that only one Weather Watcher user is experiencing. Who knows… you could have some type of conflict on your system that will prevent Weather Watcher from ever working properly.
How about you UPS me your computer and I’ll fix the problem for you
Strange that you mention that. I’ve been thinking of doing exactly that. :icon_smile: