Live Stats Like WeatherBug Pro.

war59312 · March 8, 2003, 12:28am

Live stats would be the best. Like in WeatherBug Pro. You can even set there some times and see the temp. change and the wind speed.

I really love live you know. Sure a lot of others would too.

BtW how old is the info u get now? I dont see that displayed anywere. For all i know the info could be totally wrong becuase its 7 hours late.

Also, on the same subject how about an option that updates Weather Watcher when u open the main window if u cant do live for some reason. At least it would always be up to date as possaible and u dotn always have to click the update botton. Or wait the five mins or whatever u settings are.

Thanks,
Will

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msinger · March 10, 2003, 2:27pm

Will – The information is updated at www.weather.com once an hour (average). It would be impossible to display live stats since they are only updating their weather every hour.

Weather Watcher already include the Option to retrieve the forecasts on start-up and to automatically refresh the weather at set time intervals.

You can always see when the forecast was last updated by looking at the bottom of the forecast (“Last Updates…”).

war59312 · March 10, 2003, 10:30pm

So are you saying that WeatherBug Pro is bull ****?

Well could u do it like weatherbug? That would be sweet as hell.

Why? Well because some times i need exact readings at the exact moment. I use weatherbug since the reading are live.

Not sure how they do it but it is live. U can watch as the weather changes, for example the wind speed and temp. or what ever.

Thanks,
Will

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nybbles · March 10, 2003, 10:53pm

quote:
[i]Originally posted by war59312[/i]
So are you saying that WeatherBug Pro is bull ****?
Well could u do it like weatherbug? That would be sweet as hell.

Why? Well because some times i need exact readings at the exact moment. I use weatherbug since the reading are live.

Not sure how they do it but it is live. U can watch as the weather changes, for example the wind speed and temp. or what ever.

Thanks,
Will

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Weatherbug actually connects to a specific weather station. Where Weather Watcher downloads the current info. from weather.com. Totally different process. Weather.com just shows predictions, where the weather stations actually show live stats…

I wish that we could have live stats too, but the only program I’ve seen that does this is Weatherbug, but that thing is spyware.

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nybbles · March 10, 2003, 11:01pm

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Mike Singer[/i]
Will -- The information is updated at [www.weather.com](http://www.weather.com) once an hour (average). It would be impossible to display live stats since they are only updating their weather every hour.
Weather Watcher already include the Option to retrieve the forecasts on start-up and to automatically refresh the weather at set time intervals.

You can always see when the forecast was last updated by looking at the bottom of the forecast (“Last Updates…”).

They only update every hour? Why have it set to check every 5 min. then…

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war59312 · March 11, 2003, 2:55pm

Yea I was just about to ask about that. So then we should have it set to update every hour?

Yea I just got done talking to weatherbug and yeap they said it connects to local weather stations.

Damn that would be sweet as hell if u could do that as well. Not sure how hard it would be. I’m sure you could find out how they do it. Or try and find an open source project or start one.

Thanks,
Will

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msinger · March 12, 2003, 1:57pm

If you can locate the data for the weather stations used by The Weather Channel, then I can scrape in the data. Good luck.

As for the 5 minutes Auto Update setting… If you set the interval to 1 hour, then your forecast could be as old as 2 hours. If you have it set to 5 minutes, then you know that Weather Watcher will be up-to-date since it checks for an update often. I hope that makes sense?

war59312 · March 12, 2003, 9:21pm

Well ok I know what you mean. So for 59min and 59sec the data will be the same and that last sec will be different. So if u have it set to an hour it can be 1hr 59min and 59sec. old.

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msinger · March 13, 2003, 2:07pm

Exactly [:)]

nybbles · March 13, 2003, 4:23pm

makes sense to me.

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war59312 · March 14, 2003, 1:36pm

Check out:

http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/obsFore … code=29045

That is live data for me. Maybe you could use that site instead. It’s live from local weather stations.

Just leave it like it is were you can update every 5 mins. Or add more options like every 10sec. etc. Or just enter your own time frame.

That would be sweet.

Thanks,
Will

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msinger · March 14, 2003, 4:56pm

Will – Did you ever consider just using WeatherBug?

I could not use their data as my main source because it only includes US data. Plus, they don’t seem to have as many forecasts as Weather.com. It would be good to use as a second source, but I am too busy working on other features to tackle that right now.

nybbles · March 14, 2003, 9:37pm

quote:
[i]Originally posted by Mike Singer[/i]
Will -- Did you ever consider just using WeatherBug?
I could not use their data as my main source because it only includes US data. Plus, they don’t seem to have as many forecasts as Weather.com. It would be good to use as a second source, but I am too busy working on other features to tackle that right now.

Maybe not use it as a second source, but how bout if one of the new features allows a java applet (of our choice) to be placed in a pop-up window like the maps. For example, http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_ … p?id=LVNGS (my home town). I’m on 56K and that loaded pretty quickly.

I realize this would take a while to program correctly. But if a future version could have this as an alternate option it would be awesome.

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nybbles · March 14, 2003, 9:49pm

quote:
[i]Originally posted by nybbles[/i] For example, [http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_ ... p?id=LVNGS](http://www.aws.com/aws_2001/asp/single_site.asp?id=LVNGS) (my home town). I'm on 56K and that loaded pretty quickly.

Here’s all the HTML code I need to display the above applet.
[Added]Change LVNGS to your weather station (look at source code on AWS.com’s page…[/ADDED]

<HTML>
<BODY>
<applet codebase=http://isapidata.weatherbug.com/javawx/classes code=SingleBroadcast.class width=390 height=293>
<PARAM NAME=Units VALUE="fmiI">
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<PARAM NAME=Units VALUE="fmii">

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<PARAM NAME=PRESSURE_SHADOW_COLOR_BLUE VALUE="0">
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<PARAM NAME=TEMPHIGH_TEXT_COLOR_GREEN VALUE="255">
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<PARAM NAME=VANEARROW_SHADOW_COLOR_BLUE VALUE="0">
</APPLET>
</BODY>
</HTML>

It would be nice to be able to have this as part of Weather Watcher…if it wouldn’t cause legal problems, etc.

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war59312 · March 14, 2003, 11:14pm

Hey,
That too. Different sources would be nice. This is of course a request for 6.0. A major upgrade.

Thanks
Will

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msinger · March 17, 2003, 9:31am

After thinking about this for a while… it might just be easier to make this a separate application. I don’t think AWS has as many forecasts as weather.com, so it would probably just display the current live conditions (for US only, of course).

I could put it right into Weather Watcher, but that would be a hassle to work with two totally different weather sources in the same program.

war59312 · March 17, 2003, 11:01am

Plugin???

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nybbles · March 17, 2003, 3:11pm

quote:
[i]Originally posted by war59312[/i]
Plugin???
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Yeah, I think a plugin is called for…, I wouldn’t want 2 programs running just so that I can see a java applet…(I only want the applet…), cuz I just want the applet to be running when I call upon it. I’ve set up www.musicalhorizon.com/weather.htm but I think it would be cool, if it were just another option in WW. But yeah, it would be kinda annoying to set up all those stations (there’s got to be at least 100,000). That’s why I said, maybe having the user figure it out and then manually telling it what to use…[8D]

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war59312 · March 17, 2003, 10:05pm

Yea just an imput box where u enter the Zip code. And then u make code to use that imput box which is the zip code which is used to call upon the java or whatever.

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nybbles · March 18, 2003, 8:24am

quote:
[i]Originally posted by war59312[/i]
Yea just an imput box where u enter the Zip code. And then u make code to use that imput box which is the zip code which is used to call upon the java or whatever.
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on aws it does one of the following: 1. Gives a listing of all possible stations. 2. Goes to the only one in that area.

So for option 1 maybe have it load the list in a separate window (or have it go to the site) and then have the user select the one they want and search for the code in the HTML Source (you’d have to give instructions, since most people wouldn’t know how). But I think without actualy going thru 100,000+ stations, this is the only way to have this work correctly.[:(]

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